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Justin Tauber's avatar

Extending on the Stockdale diagram, I can see how there are two dysfunctional modes - circles on the left and right of the diagram that cycle between facts and fear, on the one hand, and hope and fantasy, on the other. But if the lemniscate represents a natural process, we should be wary of things that cut us off from either hope or facts, or encourage us to avoid grief or fantasy at all costs.

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Nathan (Nate) Kinch's avatar

Definitely. And great thread here. This is grossly oversimplified and ought not be reified (lol). I think it's a helpful frame. But the reality of the living process is a tad more complex ;)

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Mathew Mytka's avatar

The diagram maybe simplifies this natural flow of an eternal present that has the hopes, fact, dreams, fears, guilt, shame, trauma and healing within it. An natural oscillation and phase transition between states happens perhaps.

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Justin Tauber's avatar

Nice! I can see how shame fits in the transition from fantasy to facts, and healing in the transition from grief to hope.

Kind of an existential OODA loop perhaps?

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Mathew Mytka's avatar

Existential OODA oh… a nice frame. I guess we go through that process naturally both consciously and unconsciously. To observe and be aware of oneself and what we sense in the world and that of which we are entangled with. This informs an orientation to act before we decide. Consciously or not. We flow around and around in the ongoing movement of our bodies through time and space, meaning making as a dance.

So we could think of this as, awareness of -> sense make -> commitment to values and intent -> live intentionally. An ongoing recursive loop. The lemniscate when untwisted is just a circle.

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Mathew Mytka's avatar

Helpful reflections Nate. We grappled with some similar questions in the Pathfinders Full Moon gathering last night. We either make it or we don't. If we can be more collectively attuned as a species to the regenerative principles of life in the universe, we pull through. If we cannot we do not. And transforming governance in praxis is an essential facet of this for sure if we are to navigate the phase transition from the Anthropocene to the potentiality of the Symbiocene.

I recall us walking out of the train station in North Sydney back in 2018 up to the offices of Volt Bank and I said "we need better governance not government". Oh how the threads weave and the patterns find us ;)

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Nathan (Nate) Kinch's avatar

I recall that comment well my friend. Looking forward to sharing the work I reference. I'm hopeful it offers a solid enough overview, and combines that with genuinely practical considerations for folks working to improve how we (in most cases) 'formally govern' (at any level of organisation).

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