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Tim Gyles's avatar

Everything in the universe affects and is affected by everything else, which gives us a universe that is continually changing over time. This means that a fixed plan to achieve a fixed outcome is pretty useless. The rigid control of conditions to produce a predictable outcome might work quite well in a test tube, but we do not live in one. All we can do is create the conditions in which a favourable outcome might occur. Our living planet has been using this principle for almost 4 billion years, wherein life creates the conditions necessary for futher life. This has enabled it to continuously arrive at the most right response to the every changing universe. We need to find our way back to behaving as part of life, instead of trying to control it. Tim.

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Nathan (Nate) Kinch's avatar

Beautifully put mate. Beautifully put. Couldn't agree more. So many reference points here for practice, the eight fold path comes to mind immediately. I wonder, what practices help you stay connected to this creative, always changing / evolving reality?

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Tim Gyles's avatar

I simply changed the way in which I think so that it is compatible with how the universe actually works. Please see my comment on iSacrifice to understand how this originally came about.

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Simp Of Human Progress's avatar

On the fear of uncertainty and the state of not knowing, I think it's caused by our capitalistic ideology in which we are always judged by performance and results.

And on the depressive state that comes after achieving your end goal, I think it's caused by an existential void and lack of meaning.

For both I think becoming aware of them and learning about them is the best way to tackle them and ensure you don't experience a bad conscious in both situations.

And from this, I would like to thank you for sharing this since it brought this to my attention and will help me be able to handle myself better when I find myself in such situations.

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Nathan (Nate) Kinch's avatar

Great points here mate. When our sense of self worth is meritocratic, extrinsic or instrumental, rather than inherent, intrinsic and non instrumental, this creates favourable conditions for relatively poor psychospiritual health. We really need to cultivate (ideally starting from birth, which can then be modelled in various ways over time in family and communal settings) a sense that we matter, just because. That there's nothing we need to 'do' per se to be worthy of love.

The meaning in life literature has been very interesting over the last decade or two. It seems, at some level, we are scientifically teasing out (to whatever extent this is useful) some rather age old truths about our relation to reality and our sense of meaningfulness.

In conversations about these types of dynamics, I often talk about the fact that the extent to which we are 'disconnected from reality' (the ground of our being so to speak) mirrors the extent to which we suffer. There's something like a proportional relationship of sorts here, which, at least as a hypothesis, means that the more deeply we are grounded in reality and our own 'mattering', the less likely we are to experience certain forms of suffering.

IMO, this is why we must move, through ecologies of practice, closer towards this 'right relationship' with life.

I'm currently training in Philosophical Health Counselling, which I believe holds HUGE promise for supporting people and communities in just this process.

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